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USENET Not Dead Yet…But NY AG Is Trying

16 June 2008 · No Comments

Censorship

Last week brought word that New York’s Attorney General finally discovered the tarnished, spam-ridden remnants of USENET, which many of us killed many an hour on, back before the web and the start of perpetual September.

And, well, a good fifteen-twenty years after the fact, an AG noticed just how seedy USENET’s darker corners could be, and pressured several large service providers to block access to.

Over the weekend, CNet carried a story on how Verizon is complying with the AG’s belated realization:

Eric Rabe, a Verizon spokesman, said only a subset of discussion groups, or newsgroups, would be offered to customers in the future. In Usenet parlance, those newsgroups are called the big 8; they include complex procedures for newsgroup creation and deletion and even boast a formal management committee. [...]

What this means in practice is that, thanks to the New York state attorney general, Verizon customers will lose out on innocent discussions. Verizon is retaining only eight newsgroup hierarchies, even though over 1,000 hierarchies exist. [...]

The only Usenet newsgroups that Verizon will continue to offer customers are the comp.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, and talk.* hierarchies. Customers will continue to be able to connect to other non-Verizon Usenet servers; no blocking is taking place.

Now, even back in the golden age of Usenet, there were service providers — certain universities, really — that blocked access to the alt.* zoo, because of the nature of some of the content there…and because blocking an unrestricted hierarchy by policy played far better with the ‘net that targeting specific newsgroups.

Back in those days, censorship was a dirty word.

My how times have changed.

For whatever it’s worth, the Freie Universität Berlin provides access to essentially all non-binary newsgroups for €10/year.  Or, Google Groups is free, if you don’t mind being limited to a web interface and the lack of a kill file.

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RIAA Finally Discovers Usenet

18 October 2007 · Comments Off

Actuarial Musings

Seen in Threat Level:

The Recording Industry Association of America is suing usenet.com, decrying it as the next Napster, Kazaa and other peer-to-peer, illicit file-sharing sites.

Um… should someone point out to RIAA that the alt.binaries newsgroups have been around for a good 20 years or so (since shortly after the Great Renaming of 1987, IIRC). Music trading there predates the mp3 file format.

Considering how Usenet has deteriorated into a sewer of spam, calling it “the next Napster” and going after the NNTP servers seems idiotically out-of touch.

Once upon a time, such an attack on Usenet would have unleashed the wrath of a horde of geeks (c.f. the Church of Scientology’s war on alt.religion.scientology starting in 1995). Now, however… well, I suppose this will attract some new attention to the once-mighty Usenet.

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