On Last Night’s GOP Debate

On Last Night’s GOP Debate

11 January 2008 · 1 Comment

A few thoughts:

  • Conventional wisdom is that Thompson won the debate.  I’m not sure that I’d go quite that far, and I’d have to wonder how much of that assessment is Fox-generated hype.  Notwithstanding my reservations, however, he did come across as a straight-talking, good ol’ boy who should be doing far better than his recent polling would indicate.
     
  • If Romney weren’t well-financed and if he didn’t have extensive ground operations in place, I’d say, “put a fork in him, he’s done”.  He’s coming across as either a candidate in search of a message, or a politician who’s trying to be all things to all people.  He seems to be having problems carving a viable niche in the spectrum of messages, with the more popular messages having been claimed by other candidates.
     
    If Romney could credibly communicate the idea that he’d be effective at cleaning up waste and advancing a reasonably conservative message in the face of a hostile Congress, allowing him to build upon his resume of Massachusetts governor and Salt Lake City Olympic reformer, he might have a shot.  However, that shot is waning as Giuliani solidifies on the “I’m most likely to shift the purple states red” message.
     
  • I can’t decide whether Ron Paul was just his usual nutty self, or if Fox carefully worked to make him seem extra-nutty.   I’m leaning towards the latter, given how the questions he faced were more in the “one of these things is not like another / one of these things is not the same” vein, from which he struggled to shift to answering policy questions handed to others, and given how giddy the commentators were over Paul’s low reaction numbers from their viewer’s panel…but Paul comes across as  a nut on his own, even without Fox’s assistance.
     
    If Fox News were as fair and balanced as it claims, they’d have a reasonable sounding Paul supporter on to explain why Paul’s message is appealing to his supporters (sometimes in spite of Paul’s quirks).
     
    Sadly, the notion that a nontrivial portion of the American electorate craves a small-government, pro-individual-liberties candidate so much that they’d tolerate quirks in their candidate, seems to finally be getting lost in Paul’s nuttiness.
     
  • I have to give props to Huckabee for deflecting criticism and the spotlighting of the unconservativeness / un-neoconness of his positions while still coming across as a nice, likeable guy.
     
  • If anyone won the debate, I’d have to name McCain.  He might not have won the battle of the soundbites (a title that Thompson did earn), but he seems to be solidifying his framing as a Republican partisans might not like, but who is viewed as most electable by partisans.

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1 response so far ↓

  • 1 Vincent Freeman // 11 Jan 2008 at 1:25 pm

    I did not watch this debate, but in following the race so far, I’ve found myself learning a lot more about Ron Paul’s philosophy towards government. While I originally liked his willingness to discuss monetary policy, I’ve discovered that he has a reasonable basis for the rest of his platform, as opposed to simply being politically motivated. What is it about his viewpoints or philosophy that comes off as nutty to you? Most mentions of Paul’s views seem to be ad hominem attacks a la Fox News.

    My points on the rest of the candidates.

    I can’t imagine Thompson turning it around, but I’ve been surprised by McCain’s comeback & Giuliani’s dropoff (although he’s claiming it to be part of his strategy). Thompson is still broke, doesn’t seem to have the support of the GOP base, is polling low & has no grassroots. He gave up New Hampshire, something I don’t understand how he justifies if he’s serious about winning.

    McCain has been winning of late, and the GOP base has given him full support. They seem very frightened of Huckabee’s rise. I have read over Huckabee’s tax plan, and after trashing him on your site, I’ve actually come around a bit on him. I probably will not support him, but on that point I think he’s got a decent plan.

    I see McCain as the new frontrunner, and someone I may end up supporting. As for Giuliani, Biden summarized him best as saying nothing but “A noun, a verb and 9/11″.

    I agree with everything you said about Romney, but I may be leaning in his direction as default despite the fact what he’s saying now contradicts his past. I still see this as anyone’s race. I’m still undecided, but by the time I can vote, I expect it to be down to 3 candidates if not effectively decided. I might as well be from Guam.